I am going to tell your guys how I know about you. Bub za- as soon as I came here, I had to vote him out because I didnot know him who he is, but later I get to know him better and request correction to manager of this site how good man he is. He has big heart, as man he always on my side and made place for me to stay. He is real and honest hard working man, I just could not tolerate bad words he use. I miss you bub za, come back and try not to use the language people dislike. Zen- this is the man who has god given talent to write well with any subjects, and is not his major. He is the one of the reason I visit this site. Usually smart man like him has different way to think. Nobody is perfect, I respect him very much. Alex, most of what you saying I agree, but don't shut him down too strong. I still think of him very fine gentleman, intellegent, well educated man that we all preciate here. Alex, even though you have no respect for Christian, and I am Christian, the ignorant one, I like you very much, because you are the man who is not hypocrit, honest, has sharp sense of knowing right and wrong. You would make the very best judge if you were. I love your energetic writing. I will cont. So what-Alex is right, he is just as smart as Zen, who has opinion of his own about zen. I do preciate his contribution here. phantom4- I do enjoy this man who always write the story make me laugh and start happy day. we need more smile in our daily life.And many more nice guys in here that I cannot remember the name. Let us grow up all together, forgive each other, nobody is perfect! I have no space to wright more. I enjoy all of you. you are all good guys.Charles-I respect your depth of your belief, and admire your dependence to the God, which we all should do. Only I ask you to remember that this is the believer and non-believer site. The respect to others is the essential step of love the Christian teaching. The new guy reality- welcome to member, looking forward to learn from you a lot.